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Cheshire East councillors have approved controversial plans to charge the over 85s for a lifeline care alarm system they currently get for free, writes Belinda Ryan.

At the moment residents who are over 85 and live alone do not pay for the assistive technology (Telecare service) they receive.

The service consists of a range of devices, such as fall detectors or pendant alarms which are triggered when someone needs help.

But members of the council’s adults and health committee voted today (Sept 27) by 10 votes to three to start charging £5 a week for the service for the over 85s, the same that is paid by those under 85.

Cllr Arthur Moran (Nantwich North & West, Ind) told the meeting: “The new system which is recommended, with the charge that we’re putting in, is much fairer.”

He said it would be means tested and those who could not afford to pay would not have to.

But Conservative group leader Janet Clowes (Wybunbury) described the proposal as a “false economy”.

Referring to the report to the committee, Cllr Clowes said: “There are 12,300 people aged 85 plus in the borough, 43% of which are estimated to fall each year.

“You only need about 30 people to fall, have a hospital admission and to be sent to long term care to actually rack up about £1m – four times the amount it’s intended to save through this particular proposal.”

She added: “And I think that to say that it is unfair, is extraordinarily naive.

“We will end up paying far more for these people, which actually will direct resources away from those people who are not 85.”

Cllr Stewart Gardiner (Knutsford, Con) said the system came about through the Better Care Fund and the objective was to help local authorities and health providers to come up with ways of reducing hospital admissions.

“If you are over 85 and live in Wilmslow or over 85 and living in Crewe, you will still have to go to hospital that’s funded from the National Health Service.

“And the purpose of this scheme is to reduce the pressure on the NHS by reducing the number of people who have to go into hospital with falls.”

He added that if someone over 85 could no longer afford the technology, had a fall and spent time in hospital and respite care as a result, that used up NHS funds and “that means that somebody else won’t be able to have an operation”.

Committee chair Jill Rhodes (Crewe North, Lab) repeated that anybody who could not afford to pay would not have to pay.

She later said if the over 85s were not charged, others who did pay might see their fees go up to £8 a week.

Cllr Kathryn Flavell (Sandbach Elworth, Lab) said: “This really, at the moment, is a case of age discrimination, and what we should be doing is assessing people on their ability to pay, not their age.

“It isn’t fair that somebody aged 65, who is in real, real difficulties and has disabilities and low income, has to pay for something that somebody who is 85 and wealthy doesn’t pay.”

Cllr Carol Bulman (Middlewich, Lab) said a first reaction to taking something away from the over 85s is that it ‘sounds mean’.

She said: “But when you think about it a little more deeply, it is a really good service, it was a great idea, it still is a great idea, but it has to be sustainable.

“We want to provide a really good service on this and we are still. At £5 it’s still cheaper than any other authority.”

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3 Comments

  1. Chris Moorhouse says:

    Having been part of the team that introduced the Alarm Scheme in to Crewe & Nantwich in the 1980’s. Politicians must control their comments to have an effective debate on this.
    The Alarm will not stop people falling but if they do and have their pendant on they can summon help. It was said during the 1980’s debates that the equipment in not an eternal life machine but one that gets help when in need.

  2. Cllr Brian Silvester says:

    This is despicable from this Labour/Independent run Council.
    Over 85’s will get £500 per year less than promised in their State pension increase, they will have to pay for the BBC licence for the first time and will now have to pay £5 per week for their lifeline care alarm.
    Our over-85’s are being hit with a triple whammy
    It is not only an outrage to introduce the charge………. it is also penny wise and pound foolish.
    It will lead to many more unattended falls……. which will result in many of those concerned going into long term care, which will cost the Council far more than the additional income from the new charge.
    The decision by these Labour and Independent Councillors is heartless and foolish.
    We should be making life easier for our over 85’s……not harder.

  3. £5 a week for this vital service V peace of mind for adult children probably living a distance away V the actual cost of treatment after a fall, I know what I would rather do, Pay up, for a parent myself without a second thought, as the moment a parent has a fall you are looking at slippery slope health-wise, and risk the poor soul popping off early with all the change and stress that hospitalisation entails.

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